Dissecting the DMT Entities: Scientific Study at Trace Institute on DMT Immersion Observations and the Potential Objective Reality of DMT Entities

Jack Thomas [Smittyfkntalent]

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Sep 12, 2026

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Donald [and Trace]

Your research as presented in your work hits a phenomenological home run. That said, I’d like to offer something my research has surfaced in support of your positions.

As postulated, if perceived reality is actually a conglomerate of diverse consciousness involved in various levels of interaction, and that psycho-perceptually diverse meeting-point is a product of consciousness in other forms interacting with our own consciousness’ projection and selective perception, we can see why models of “non human entities” [other consciousnesses] in interaction with our perceptual psyche could coalesce to create known reality systems in a grand interactive dance of the objective observer and the observed-other and non-observed “other” forms of consciousness. I think we can generally see this potentiality in similar ways.

The question of perception being an interface with the known physical reality-needs of our physical forms/function that inevitably leads to selective perception [in essence, locking unknown entities from view], also hints at why, despite the actual form of any external stimuli, we might project the human form on these perceptions that are not initially human — for instance, the historical tradition of seeing fairies, elves, gnomes, Bigfoot, alien UFOs, nature spirits, etc., all in some simile of the human form, when in fact the the interacting stimuli may not initially have a human form.

The question of perception being an interface also allows us to postulate that known physical reality itself may be a byproduct of consciousness using selective biological perception that limits our understanding of the universe, especially if known space/time constructs are potentially a byproduct of interactions between various forms of perceptual consciousness.

Both these questions have an aspect relationship to known physics, although physics defers to math modeling assuming a non-conscious substrate of known matter/energy. If we defer the question to the assumption that Spacetime IS an aspect of consciousness itself, in the sense that conscious perception helps mold the forms and functions of physics we see and interact within, creates them as systems perceptually if you will, while screaming out other aspects of other consciousness’ universe-creating drama that evolutionarily we are disinclined to see, then a model that takes in the cold physics math, but is inclusive of consciousness as a contributing factor is needed WITHIN physics itself.

I realize this assertion is well ahead of confirming research data, but so is any conjecture and theory at this early stage of your particular research. That said, the models emergent in my research are inclusive of known physics almost in its entirety, but not so much in its shortfalls [mathematical cosmological unknowns]. while also being inclusive of the postulations your research seems to emulate.

What we are finding is that for your models of interface to work with known physics, consciousness cannot be reduced to “entities” in its entirety. In that respect, our consciousness, whether tethered to our bodies forever or not at all, is still a conglomerated affair: our brain function, human biome microbe communities, even body/organ consciousness, etc., all interact with our perception/consciousness. Likely, other families or groups of consciousness are at least subconsciously active as well within the human conglomerate of consciousness. Perhaps even space/time-related probable reality systems underlie our here/now psyche? I think despite speculation we are probably on the same page up til this point, although I have not yet read your books, but very much understand your work from other sources.

Where we may differ, but in support of your theories [although methods of data study may be out of reach right now], is the distinction between observer and other entities, and the physical fabric of spacetime itself. In the proposed model, there cannot be a separation between conscious conglomerates [IE humans] and quantum particles/fields. We could postulate that DMT entities [I have never taken DMT, but in practicing a traditional, indigenous shamanism have many similar experiences without psychoactives through fasting/etc] are conglomerates as humans are, just with different form and function in appearance, perception and behavior. Complex consciousness must, mathematically using earth life models, have complexity of form. Again, assuming DMT entities are not biological shadows of brain function, both humans and “entities” are conglomerate consciousness interpenetrating with other consciousness [and quantum fields] to create known reality constructs in spacetime and perhaps elsewhere, although none of these reality constructs could theoretically be separate in any meaningful understanding of the word outside of perception itself.

Perhaps the “entities” thrive within dark matter, who knows? But what we can postulate is that SOMETHING has to coalesce to create form/function conglomerates forming known entity consciousness gestalts, such as ourselves and entities perceived in non-ordinary perception, which in turn differentiate and function in ways both interpenetrating [creating] our “reality’ and theirs. Again, that relates directly to theorized quantum particles and their fields. For conscious conglomerates like humans and entities to form, in the same way they do through physics, we need a quantum solution.

Physics provides a model [perhaps flawed] of a big bang releasing a quantum soup made up of very little particle diversity. As gravity did its work through spacetime these primary particles formed conglomerates that eventually became elements, which became the full complexity of evolving planets and minerals and lifeforms, and human consciousness, or so the theory goes. For a few types [or perhaps a single type] of elementary particle to form the evolutionary diversity of all known things, the particles themselves have to hold an immense amount of information [that eventually unfolds into all universal forms].

Therefore, we can theorize that the primary quantum units themselves are conscious [in a decidedly non-human way]. They are not the math modeling of a computer programmed holographic reality, they are the quantum bedrock of consciousness itself, which is the other required element for a simulation reality. Reality itself then, is both material and consciousness at the same time. The quantum particle itself is sharing its uniquely non-human consciousness [information/awareness/autonomy/function] with-and-within the human gestalt [and also outside our perception simultaneously] in exactly the same way your DMT entities are. The DMT entities themselves, depending on their complexity in form and function, are made up of these same quantum fields. That’s where we co-interact with them, at the quantum level of perception, but also at the complex level of conglomerate entity-ness at the same time.

We have consciousness, which is outside of form.function of our bodies in its abilities for abstract creativity, and is also within the form and function of our bodies, also then tied to these conscious quantum fields. The only thing remaining for the whole simulation to come together in a dance of universal, conscious creativity, is “nothing”…death with no afterlife for example. Even if consciousness never dies, consciousness cannot access true abstraction/creativity without the zero-point for consciousness itself…the void. Drugs like datura and salvia take the tripper right into that death zone…the zone that is so dark nothing is there, not even consciousness, as the final destination. The paradox of any simulation that is actually self creative [doing the business “entities: do] is that form/function/consciousness need nothingness to draw creativity out of everything beyond form. Without that, we would be just another AI re-synthesizing what is already there. But conscious thought exceeds those limitations through creativity drawn from both known-forms and the null void.

So, in summary: primary quantum units/fields are likely conscious constructs and underlay and help form consciousness’ more complex constructs [entities], which incidentally is the root of any evolving whole-field manifestation such as a living-[mathematical]-simulation [hypothesis #1]. Some of the less complex DMT entities may actually be these simple primary particles, which have amazing abilities according to physics, such as extraordinary amounts of contained energy, transference, and popping in and out of known spacetime reality in various patterns.

#2 — And the “void” of nothingness is the other oft-missing essential in the pool of infinite creativity allowing consciousness in all its forms to evolve with ever-changing creative expression of all that is. [hypothesis #2].

If we aren’t mostly on the same page here, I’d be surprised. The “entities” simply appear to be doing the same work we humans do, but on a more conscious and functionally-aware level. In that sense, mutually perceived or not, friendly or hostile, we [all entities] potentially are all allies, in both our work as perceiving consciousness, and on a quantum field level. So yeah — “primary quantum particles” and the “null void” are what I’d like to add to your work.

The mathematics of non-perceived entities and biologically connected consciousness, therefore, can be simplified [and quantified and qualified] this way: form, function, consciousness, formlessness. No other variables are needed to model both entity and human consciousness and our interactions in any reality, physical or otherwise, or on any level therein.

Thanks for your work, theories and contributions,

Jack Thomas